ZedAI telcon 20090413

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Note: this meeting will be held at 1300h UTC. Find the meeting time in your geographical location.

Contents

Scribe

Present

Markus, Marisa, Sam, Kenny, Dennis, Josh, Boris, Kate

Regrets

Ole, Stephen, Matt, Per (Easter festivities are held with great affection across the christian world.)

James may join late or not at all

Action Items

  • Markus to add spec prose on cascading level for inline styles: "For the purposes of the CSS cascade, these values are considered author-level"
  • Markus to create wiki page devoted to level issue
  • DONE Dennis: produce XForms+XHTML2 workbook examples, put on Wiki
  • DONE Dennis to post |information about QTI to the list.
  • Markus fix ZedAI main page, (work started at [1])
  • Markus to invite people for profile testing.
  • Markus to ask the DAISY list about how newspapers/periodicals markup is currently being done.

Agenda

Current iteration end is this friday (the 17th).

  • Last week saw finalization of solutions (in this iteration) for:
  • Matt has provided starts for MODS metadata inclusion, wiki pages: ZedAI_Meta_Data_-_MODS_Recommendation and MODS_RDF
  • Review - remaining workitems this iteration: see table at F2F page bottom
  • The name "box" considered harmful (too many CSS connotations). Suggest renaming to "aside" - w roles such as sidebar, notice, warning etc to make a concrete type.


Minutes

Recap of last weeks progress;

  • Boris: annotation proposal
  • Markus: attribution, now a set of generic elements, implemented on SVN
  • Kenny: newsfeeds profile

Markus: what remains to be done this week?

@Marisa this week add annotation proposal vocab entries

  • Boris: issue: would we want to require the property attribute on annotation? @markus add to issue tracker
  • Boris: issue: how does <annotation> connect with table summary, and object innermost text @markus add to issue tracker

newsfeeds profile

Kenny: have completed an overview of newsfeeds profile.

Markus: note, two new aspects to vocab-to-rng-enum generation:

  • @role is not the only potential carrier, but also rel, rev, and property from RDF/a
  • multiple input sources to the enumeration (example: a profiles role vocab, profile-specific metadata, and general MODS metadata)

@markus this week figure out how to do this in the build script

@Kenny this week get the newsfeeds RDDL document in reasonable shape. Use Kennys new wiki page for that.

Marisa: opened up a request-a-role page

@marisa send email with vocab questions to group

mods

Group looks at Matts MODS-in-RDF/a example and notices a an increased complexity due to the nesting.

Markus: Matt has pointed out that RDF/XML actually seems to be a simpler way of saying the same thing in this case.

@markus next iteration matter evaluate the MODS as RDF/a paradigm. If found too complex to author by users: is RDF/XML a better alternative? Other ways to create a more compact expression form?

Probably a standalone Schematron schema for validation. We will try to get it done this week

This week: Markus and James to work on integrating Matts MODS_Recommendation text into spec draft.

mathematics

  • @dennis brief review of mathml, answer questions about optional modules in the schema, + IDness (xml:id vs id) as in issue 37 (the latter not critical to answer now)

inline content models

  • @markus send proposal re inline content models to list

Initially thought this was good idea; in a td or li, use either inline or block level (or <sent>), but dont mix in sibling lists.

But discussion re p content model made us realize it may be overly restrictive, forcing markup hacks that arent better than what we were trying to avoid.

XSD

XSD - seems like it will be possible to automate XSD generation. However, the current MathML3 RNGs create XSD that seems very invalid, but hopefully MathML WG will provide XSDs on their own that we can use.

@markus next iteration for xsd: the ones built now are admittedly broken.

QTI and XForms

Dennis completed wiki pages on QTI and workbook examples.

Dennis: QTI: difficult to use as islands in another document. Designed to be entire document. Looks like XForms is what we should be going for.

Box vs aside

Agreement to rename box to aside. Result already on SVN.

Other matters

@markus send out a zipfile for those who are not yet running the build script

Summary of activities this week

Based on remaining items table:

  • DONE @markus send current build zip
  • DONE @marisa add annotation proposal vocab entries
  • DONE @marisa help kenny with Daisy Online XHTML+RDFa service provider discovery vocab
  • DONE get newsfeeds profile RDDL in reasonable shape (via wiki page)
  • @dennis brief review of mathml, answer questions about optional modules in the schema, + IDness (xml:id vs id) as in issue 37 (the latter not critical to answer now)
  • DONE @markus add issues to tracker re annotations and table/summary + object text
  • DONE send proposal re inline content models to list
  • @markus, @per: further work on schema documentation
  • DONE @markus, @james integrate MODS draft into spec, + further spec work re vocabs etc
  • DONE XSD: add as next iteration matter
  • DONE mods-in-rdfa evaluation: add as next iteration matter
  • DONE xforms integration: add as next iteration matter
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