ZedAI telcon 20090330
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Note: The 30 March 2009 meeting will be held at 1300h UTC. Find the meeting time in your geographical location.
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Scribe
Boris
Present
Marisa, Per, James, Markus, Ole, Boris, Kenny, Dennis, Stephen
Regrets
Kate, Matt
Action Items
Previous Action Items
- Markus to add the list of open work items to the Wiki - as a table, so group members can fill in progress/status of their action items. Done
- Boris to write a proposal for the group to consider - an alternative to the <d:prodnote> concept, whereby authorship of selected book content is attributed in Metadata RDFA.
- Markus to add spec prose on cascading level for inline styles: "For the purposes of the CSS cascade, these values are considered author-level"
- Per to contact Kenny about screen reader evaluation of the schema doc
- Ole to decide if he will be able to evaluate the autogenerated XSD's
- Markus to create wiki page devoted to level issue
- Dennis: produce XForms+XHTML2 workbook examples, put on Wiki
- Dennis to post information about QTI to the list. (open)
- Markus fix ZedAI main page, (work started at [1])
- Markus to invite people for profile testing.
- Markus to ask the DAISY list about how newspapers/periodicals markup is currently being done.
Agenda
F2F recap, and near future workplan
- list remaining workitems this iteration: see table at F2F page bottom
- trying to close this iteration 17 April, to be followed by a final and short iteration. Target date for first public working draft: 15 May
- Major Items to cover in the next iteration (18 April - 15 May):
- Interactivity Feature (XForms)
- Thorough testing of book profile, and fixing of findings
- Creation of profile sample docs collection
- Further work on documentation (RDDL-level and schema-inline)
- Further work on spec and primer documents
- Establish daisy.org/z3986 web pages, and build upload mechanism
- Review of Generic Document Profile, and decision on whether to include it as a deliverable
- (Research on content selection (DISELECT) module)
- (Research on speech related (PLS(as link type)/SSML) modules)
- (Periodicals profile (superset of newsfeeds profile), first draft)
- (Early drafts of poetry and drama modules)
Attribution proposal
Lets try to close this. Proposal by James, available here
new issues to adress coming week
Minutes
Leona is now a mom. She will be on maternity leave for 12 months.
Completed action items
- Markus to add the list of open work items to the Wiki - as a table, so group members can fill in progress/status of their action items -- Done
- Per to contact Kenny about screen reader evaluation of the schema doc -- done
Need to separate out the schema doc's index table by different categories or namespaces - so eg we don't have mathml elements overrunning everything else. Will wait until this change is done before doing screen reader evaluation.
F2F recap, and near future workplan
Congratulations, it worked very well. The virtual face to face was a useful way to have a meeting. w3c is using these more and more. We should have one or two more before the first public draft (May) - perhaps just 4 hours at a stretch.
See summaries of accomplishments, and list of remaining workitems this iteration at F2F page. A few items were added to the list of remaining workitems during this telecon.
We are trying to close this iteration 17 April. It will be followed by a final and short iteration (18 April - 15 May) - the peak of our work in this WG. In May, the distribution format working group will be started, so attention will be distracted. We need to submit both specs to NISO in November.
Items to cover in this upcoming iteration -- reviewed the list on the agenda; no additions.
Attribution proposal
James walks through his proposal :
Naming questions. Markus doesn't like using a "page" as the basic container; we don't use pages as containers elsewhere. Use <section role="titleinfo"> or <titleinfo> or something like that.
Questions about re-use: Can these elements generalize to other document/media types, eg opening titles of a movie? Can we re-use them for credits for a chapter in a compilation? Byline, dateline, etc already in periodicals profile.
Relation to formal metadata - this is not intended to replace metadata. It is rather intended to capture exact contents in the front matter of a print work.
New editions of older works sometimes wrap new information around old book with old titlepage inside - an argument for using section + role rather than unique content models.
<imprint> and similar containers - is there any utility to marking this up? What would any processor/tool do with that information? RNIB uses it when generating various outputs. If nothing else, may help certain outputs know what to skip.
<titlepart> seems very helpful - it can be really hard to decide how to mark up multipart titles if you don't have this.
Possible additions from RNIB: "title details": ISBN number; previous editions (published 1935, reprinted...); copyright notice. Or maybe use inline metadata to pick out ISBN from wherever it occurs?
Other "back of titlepage" items: cataloguing data, copyright, etc - many diverse types of information. Often seems ignorable, but publishers may want it all reproduced literally for legal reasons. Since a finite list probably isn't possible, may be a good use of role. Some relevant roles have already been defined based on CMOS.
James + Markus: new action item to implement a draft of this module. Goal is to give republishers the flexibility to capture as much of this information as they can or want to. Revisit next Monday.
