ZedAI telcon 20090112
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Note: The 12 January 2009 meeting will be held at 1400h UTC. Find the meeting time in your geographical location.
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Present
Markus, Per, Sam, James, Ole, Stephen, Boris, Marisa
Regrets: Matt, Kenny, Gregory
Scribe
Boris
Agenda
Action Item Review
- Gregory to research mechanisms for local extension of taxonomies
- James to begin research on XInclude and/or other strategies for splitting document over multiple files
- GJR send email on XHTML1.x as possible fallback strategy
- Markus fix ZedAI main page, start a ZedAI Overview page (postponed, Markus is working on spec prose first.)
- Kenny to investigate Chicago Manual of Style equivalent for periodicals
- Sam - gathering sample documents.
- Kenny - gathering sample documents.
- Markus to contact Oxygen for possible free licenses.
- Markus to invite people for profile testing.
- Markus to ask the DAISY list about how newspapers/periodicals markup is currently being done.
- James to review the spec skeleton [ed. note - spec prose subgroup is started]
F2F
CSUN dates are March 16 to March 21 2009.
Starting point suggestion is to hold an F2F at LAX following CSUN, at the 22nd and 23d, and first half of 24th.
[Note - we know that many WG participants will not be able to make it. Attendance is obviously optional, and primary focus will be on nose-down work on spec and schema details, rather than higher level design.]
Metadata review
Identify people to perform a first review of Matts metadata report, review to be finalized and discussed at next telcon.
Note: our approach to metadata may have an impact on frontmatter design (which is a remaining issue for simplebook)
Out-of-spine content
Start discussion on building (a) module(s) for sidebars and their kin.
- the book profile context. Sources of inspiration:
- DTBook
- RNIB
- Matt/CNIB?
- DocBook
- TEI?
- other profile contexts (such as periodicals)
Road ahead for remaining issues in simplebook profile
Plan for addressing remaining issues as noted in iteration 1 report and GoogleCode tracker.
Minutes
New Member
Suggestion from Vision Australia: add Katherine Randall (sp?) as participant. She is the head of transcription service @ VA
Any objections? no. We will welcome her to the working group
Action Items
All action items remain on the list.
Discussion:
- Email to Oxygen went out, but no response as yet.
- Inviting Zed list to do profile testing. Markus had second thoughts - may want to limit distribution until we've solved major open issues on simplebook profile. Discard this action item? James: may be worth getting other perspectives earlier rather than later.
- Spec prose subgroup has been started: Markus and James
Newspaper and periodical markup
Stephen: RNIB is developing process to do republishing of complete daily newspapers in DAISY. Arrives as XML (custom DTD) with metadata about position on page; text of articles in separate files in HTML-like format. Standard format may be sufficient - not re-creating a sense of the "front page"; just ordering articles in order of significance [based on page number and size]. Noting page numbers, at least page where article starts.
Ole: dividing into sections/parts; not using page numbers in newspapers (get data before a page has been assigned)
Boris: periodicals are also being marked up for NIMAS use.
Face To Face
CSUN dates are March 16 to March 21 2009.
Starting point suggestion is to hold an F2F at LAX following CSUN, at the 22nd and 23d, and first half of 24th.
How many would be able to join? Markus - yes. Sam - probably. Ole - maybe. Boris - maybe. Marisa - yes. Per - maybe. Stephen - no. Kenny - yes.
Should we just do an informal work session for those who will be there anyway?
James suggests virtual face to face? Everyone would work on ZedAI all day. Schedule 2 or 3 conf. calls during the day to compare notes. "International ZedAI day". Might work well since this is intended primarily to be a heads-down working session.
Can do this during the time when multiple people will be in LAX - 3/23 - so that at least a subgroup are physically together, and we will be spread across fewer timezones that day.
Metadata
Metadata review - see Matt's email. Need names of people who will read the draft carefully and think about integration with profile system.
Volunteers: Markus, Per.
Previously, metadata was a single chunk in the head. Given RDF/a you can put metadata anywhere. This could allow us to avoid unnecessary duplication - eg, mark up title "in place" in frontmatter, rather than copy to head element. As an authoring format, ZedAI can organize this for authoring-side ease and consistency; don't need to duplicate information for the convenience of a simple player app. Example: can tag author, illustrator, contributor names with roles where they appear on title page.
Frontmatter is the "least cooked" of the parts currently - will need a lot of work in this iteration.
High-level goals for advanced book profile
This is the next thing to decide - discuss on list.
Sample content will help us here - will forward links to current examples we have.
Review of ongoing activities
- Markus/Per working on metadata integration
- Kenny/Ole moving on periodicals profile.
- Sam/Markus - sample document production
- Stephen - to help out with advanced book discussion
- Marisa/Boris - working on taxonomy; Marisa will be starting to send out questions to the list. Will get taxonomy into SVN by the end of this iteration.
Iteration 2 ends 2/27.
Out-of-spine content
Discussion postponed. Need high level structure first.
