ZedAI telcon 20080929
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Present
Markus, Per, Boris, Marissa, Matt, Kenny (scribe).
Regrets: Stephen, Ole.
Action Item Summary
new action items this meeting
- Markus to create a ZedNext wiki accounts for Per and Stephen. Completion ASAP.
- Markus to come up with an iteration report after the first iteration ending October 31 2008.
- Stephen to create a wiki page describing the RNIB book and magazine DTDs. This action item needs to be completed by 31 October 2008.
- Markus to contact the chair of the xhtml2 working group. Completion ASAP.
action items from previous meetings
- Kenny to contact G Rusmeda. Completion ASAP.
Agenda
- Scribe
- Introductions
- NISO process & tools update
- First iteration intro
- first iteration target deliverables
- creation of a role/rdf specialist subgroup
- creation of a sample docs+schemas subgroup
- wiki usage
- Previous Action Items
- @Kenny: contact Gregory Rusmaita
Minutes
General Discussion.
Markus: Linus from TPB is planning to join this group in december or january.
Markus: Late breaking news: Sam Ogami from California State University will also be joining the WG, 4-6 hours a week.
Markus: Time commitments from various organisations made to this group are quite different. I will be dedicating 50-60 percent of my time to this group. Marisa's time commitment to this group after november will be 40-50 percent. Similarly, Matts involvement is expected to increase in 2009.
Markus: No news from NISO yet about the collaborative environment for this group; George is still working on our report and WG proposal. We will hear more after it is submitted. There is nothing that we need to wait for though. We have the teleconference line set up and the wiki set up.
We will adopt an iterative approach; from now to March we are looking at four to five iterations. The end of an iteration should lead to the delivery of something that is tangible and works. By the end of October we should come up with a very simple profile which means we will go through the XHTML2 schemas and bring in the appropriate parts in our profile and then inject a daisy page number module into this profile. This will be a good viability test and proof of concept too. The idea is to create a very simple "leisure book" profile, which may or may not live on to the final spec.
Markus: Lets create two subgroups here:
1. RDF and ontology WG - Boris and Marisa (Boris to lead)
2. Schemas, document samples and Core framework WG - Markus and Per (Markus to lead)
Markus: The deliverables of the RDF sub group is to deliver an XHTML role definition of the daisy page number module. This sub group would also research RDF per se for our purposes, and compile Wiki material with role/RDF reading links, introductory materials, and a discussion of the concept as the work progresses.
Markus: The second subgroups deliverables are the schema framework and sample documents. The sample document that is produced should also be validatable. Per and Markus will also have a wiki page to share information.
Markus: We need to create a few general discussion wiki pages for this wg. This will aid understanding of our work: concepts, rationales. The wiki should have pages that discuss concepts in detail e.g. concept of a profile, rationale for role/RDF, etc.
Markus: At the end of the first iteration and all subsequent iterations, we should supply an iteration report that includes what we have done and what we will do in the next iteration. Risk assessment is also a part of the iteration end process.
Boris: Should the first iteration also include a mapping between daisy 3 and the new vocabulary being created by this wg?
Markus: There are several other grammars out there that we want to look at beyond inheritance from DTBook; for example rnib, cnib have their own vocabularies. DocBook, TEI also spring to mind.
Matt: Our vocabulary is already based on XHTML2, so it would be great from a compatibility point of view.
Markus: Are the deliverables clear to the two wgs?
Boris: Not sure what the RDF part would look like, but we have enough material to start the work with.
Markus: in terms of a quickstart for role/RDF research, suggest going top-down; look at the xhtml:role module, ARIA, and follow it inwards to the taxonomies etc. There is a likelihood that the path chosen by these implementations will be sufficient for our needs.
Markus: In terms of the minutes and action items, the action items should be prefixed in the minutes with @, and should also be collected at the top of the document. All actions that have been completed will be taken off the list and any actions that have not been completed will be kept on.
Markus: Kenny had an action item to talk to gregory about XHTML2.
Kenny: I made initial contact with Gregory. I will talk to gregory in detail tomorrow morning and send Markus the minutes.
Markus: I started looking at the XHTML2 schemas. A few compromises were made in XHTML2 before HTML5 for legacy and compatibility purposes, but the XHTML2 WG is now discussing removal of these compromises. We will support them in their bid to do this.
Markus: once the baby arrives, I will be away for five days and will be involved in a limited capacity for the next five to ten days.
Markus: All wiki pages created by members of this WG should be prefixed with ZedAI from hereon in.
Markus: Suggest this teleconference should always be held at this day and time. What does everyone think?
Per: What would the typical length of the call be?
Markus: The calls can be maximum two hours. They will generally go for an hour.
(Consensus reached: all future ZAI teleconferences always to be held on this day and this time)
